Chat with Den
Christian: Welcome to chat! Let me know how I can help you know God better, answer any questions, or help you to make sure you are saved.
Den: hi. I am looking to chat. I am a Christian, I am saved.
Christian: Hi Den, Welcome.
Christian: Let me ask, how did you get saved?
Den: i have 3 uncles who are pastors and they shared about how to be saved
Christian: (rephrased - How do people get saved?)
Den: he just let me follow prayer to accept Christ as my personal savior
Christian: I'm kind of confused about your answer so I am probing a little. Please stay with me on this....
Den: ok…
Christian: why would someone need to do that. Why do we need to accept Jesus and pray? what I am saying is that your answer to my question is a little squishy. I am just trying to figure out how you got saved and the reason you wanted to be saved.
Christian: why do you think people need to be saved?
Den: to be in heaven, so that people can have eternal life..
Christian: but why cant people just get to heaven automatically when they die?
Christian: there must be a reason they need saving
Den: become all of us have sinned
Christian: ok. what is sin?
Den: um…
Christian: most people cant answer that, because they've never been told what it is and why its important, but its so vital to the reason we need to be saved.
Den: sin are the bad things we do and disobeying Gods commandments
Christian: can you name some of the commandments?
Den: love God above all
Christian: that's true
Den: honor your father and mother
Christian: how about adultery....
Christian: Jesus said if you look with lust, its adultery of the heart
Den: thou shall not kill
Christian: And Jesus said if we hate someone we are guilty of murder in the heart
Den: stealing is another
Christian: You're right! Those are some of the commandments.
Christian: They cut right to our heart, and they even compose of the things we do in our thoughts and the things we think we do in secret.
Christian: Den, who see's these things we think and do when no one is around?
Den: Jesus
Christian: We'll God tells us that we all fall short of the Glory of God, and his Standard. that standard is the Ten Commandments. God shows it to us as a mirror to our heart. So we see ourselves in truth...
Christian: and so if we break one Commandment in thought word or deed.. we have broken the Law...
Christian: and God demands the death penalty for our crimes.
Christian: Our crimes are not against other people, because they did not create the Law. No, our crimes are against our Holy God.
Christian: And he seeks the death penalty.
Christian: so there's nothing we can do to not want to sin by hating someone. we're all ready in trouble and we cant do anything to get out of it
Christian: This is why Jesus is so important.
Christian: We don't get saved to go to heaven or get eternal life. “We get saved”, or “come to Jesus” so that we will desire righteous, and with our repentance and faith, we are also saved from God's wrath and Hell.
Christian: And we come to Jesus out of gratitude and love for what he did on the cross for us.
Christian: We broke the Law, Jesus paid our fine. Does that make sense?
Den: yes,but what if i committed a mortal sin? what should i do not to hate someone?
Christian: all sins are sins. There is no difference
Christian: If we do something against the Law of God (whether towards God or man) its only a crime against God.
Den: then what should i do?
Christian: well, that is why we come to Jesus for salvation.
Christian: We come because we know we are sinners, that we do not do good (God's word says no one is good and no one does good). His word says “all the things we do are as filthy dirty rags that are only fit to burn.”
Christian: And “we can not earn salvation”, we can not bribe God (the Judge of our soul) with any deeds (because they are worthless).
Christian: All we can do is fall at the feet of Jesus Christ and obey the Gospel...
Christian: This is why I asked you earlier because not everyone who thinks they are saved... is. They hear a gospel message that sounds good but its not the real one. In the end it leads to destruction and hell, that is why I like to make sure anyone I talk to “is” saved by asking these kinds of questions, so that they can hear the biblical message of what we need to do to be saved, and the reason why we need to be saved.
Christian: Has anyone ever told you what you must do to be saved? What God's terms are...?
Den: all i understand is that to accept God as my personal saviour
Christian: But the question is… what does that mean. The gospel tells us that we do not accept God, God accepts us. And we have to know why we need God and what Jesus has to do with it all.
Christian: What we give God is not a flippant acceptance. its based on obedience to the gospel.
Den: after I’m saved i should do good things
Christian: Well, after we are saved we will do things that please God because we are saved, and because GOD does those things through us. We desire to live righteously.
Christian: So this is what the gospel message of God declares and commands:
Christian: “God calls all men everywhere to repent, because he has appointed a day (judgment day) where in he will judge the world in righteousness (according to the Law) through the One he appointed (Jesus Christ)...”
Christian: He calls us to Repent and Trust in Jesus....
Christian: Repentance isnt saying a prayer or saying your sorry and continuing to live as you did before...
Christian: Repentance is a ONE TIME situation where you Talk to God (yourself personally in private - no one else around)....
Christian: Repentance is admitting to God that you are a sinner, that you have violated the Law of God... you name as many sins as you can think of.... and you ask Jesus to forgive you of those sins. Your sins (past, present and future) will be forgiven (once and for all).
Den: is that what should i do 2 be 4given by God?
Christian: I'm still explaining...hold on….
Den: what if im already saved and i committed a sin? can God still forgive me?
Christian: Well, lets first confirm that you are saved first. Because it doesn’t sound like you really are. (ie. since you couldn’t tell me how to be saved, why to be saved, and you gave me a different answer that a Christian should give to those questions…let's confirm you're saved, and then I'll answer that question ok?)
Christian: So, Repentance is admitting to God that you are a sinner, that you have violated the Law of God... (name as many sins as you can think of when you talk to God).... and ask Jesus to forgive you of those sins. Your sins past present and future will be forgiven (once and for all).
Den: ok
Christian: The other part of "repentance" is the turning from those sins. It’s a forsaking of sin. You no longer desire to do what is against God (rebellion, sin, etc)... and you abhor sin (means to hate it, hate it, hate it and want nothing to do with it anymore)...
Christian: So first is Repentance... and the second part is... Trusting Jesus.
Christian: (This is not a fluffy kind of trust.)
Christian: it means that you “believe” Jesus is who the Bible says He is, and who Jesus says He is in the Bible. It also means that you believe that Jesus died on the cross for you’re your sins… that only Jesus can save you from God's coming punishment that will fall upon all who die in their sins (unforgiven sinners).
Christian: If your sins are forgiven ... you are a “forgiven sinner” and not an unforgiven sinner.
Christian: The TRUST you have is that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your crimes against God. And if you receive it, it’s PAID IN FULL. And your case is closed before God.
Christian: You broke the Law and Jesus paid the fine. If you RECEIVE Jesus payment on your behalf, by Telling God you want that FREE gift God offers in Jesus (Forgiveness and eternal life)...
Christian: Then its as if Jesus comes into God's court room... and you are about to be sentenced for serious crimes. You dont have the money or the ability to get out of the situation, are about to be sentenced... and Jesus bursts into the court room... runs up to the Judge and says "I love this man, I sold all I have to pay for His fine." and the Judge looks at you and says you are free to go. This person paid your fine for you. Jesus paid the fine with his life’s blood on the cross. The Justice of God is served, because the fine is paid for IN FULL.... and you are now a free man…with an new friend in whom you are grateful to, and live out that gratitude from this day forward. Praising and Thanking God for saving you.
Christian: Does that make sense?
Den: yah
Christian: Repentance and Trusting in Jesus. That’s it. That’s all you need to do to be saved.
Christian: Once you do that, as you talk to God in prayer, GOD will ACCEPT Jesus work on your behalf, and you will instantly become a forgiven sinner, and an adopted child of God.
Christian: Does that make sense?
Den: yah
Christian: great.
Den: ill do it
Den: thanks
Christian: So when your relatives tried to tell you about the gospel and how to be saved, it doesnt sound like they gave the biblical gospel message. However, I am glad you are going to "Get right with God" and become saved today. You’ll be a Born Again believer!
Christian: You know Jesus not only said to “Repent”, but also that one “Must be born again to enter heaven”.
Den: i think they did tell me, i just didn’t understand so clear.
Christian: If you repent and trust in Christ then you will be born again, and God's spirit will make you into an new person. That transformation is amazing.
Christian: We no longer desire to sin, (but that doesn’t mean we don’t mess up and sin).
Den: im a born again
Christian: Being born again is what happens after you obey the Gospel. You're going to do that tonight, right now, right?
Den: yeah
Den: thanks
Christian: awsome! Praise God. I am so happy. You know... the Bible says that
when you get saved.. .”the Angels in heaven rejoice!”
Den: ive heard that verse
Christian: Here is a website to help you as you begin to grow in the faith, study the Bible (your own personal time in the Bible between you and God).... *****************
Christian: There are important articles in there for new believers to know. But don't go there until after you pray/talk to God.
Den: thanks. i’ll visit it
Christian: Thank you for talking with me tonight!
Christian: BTW, I lead a Bible study class online for new believers. feel free to swing over and join us! **********
Den: okey,by the way its morning here today
Christian: have a great day then and God bless!
Christian: PS.. your question will be answered at that website!
Den: okey thanks
Den: thanks God for using you as a channel
Christian: Have a great day Den! I am blessed to have been here to help you come to know God! Den: thanks to you
Christian: thanks to God using me!
Den: yes
Christian: ok (Go pray to God now)!
Den: are you signing off?
Christian: yep, unless you have another question.
Christian: (I am usually here one hour earlier than we chatted tonight.)
Den: can you help me to share this gospel with my friend?
Christian: Yes. Send them to www.NeedGod.com and then just tell your friend about our conversation.
Den: he's a catholic
Christian: Great. Everyone needs to be saved. Even if they don’t want to hear the gospel of the Bible... YOU know it and YOU will obey it. Don’t let anyone discourage you from the faith! This faith is the only one that saves!
Den: its hard for me to share this with him because dont know if hes interested about listening to God
Christian: its ok. You can just tell him/her about your conversation, and that you became born again today by obeying the gospel of the Bible.
Christian: show him the website and let GOD do the work in him/her towards the truth.
Note…. It could be years and years before they come to Jesus, but God can save them right now if they are open to wanting to be saved!
Christian: Ok, have a great day....and Go pray to God right now before you do anything else!
den: okey, I will
den: thanks
den: good evening
**Chat ended**
Den: hi. I am looking to chat. I am a Christian, I am saved.
Christian: Hi Den, Welcome.
Christian: Let me ask, how did you get saved?
Den: i have 3 uncles who are pastors and they shared about how to be saved
Christian: (rephrased - How do people get saved?)
Den: he just let me follow prayer to accept Christ as my personal savior
Christian: I'm kind of confused about your answer so I am probing a little. Please stay with me on this....
Den: ok…
Christian: why would someone need to do that. Why do we need to accept Jesus and pray? what I am saying is that your answer to my question is a little squishy. I am just trying to figure out how you got saved and the reason you wanted to be saved.
Christian: why do you think people need to be saved?
Den: to be in heaven, so that people can have eternal life..
Christian: but why cant people just get to heaven automatically when they die?
Christian: there must be a reason they need saving
Den: become all of us have sinned
Christian: ok. what is sin?
Den: um…
Christian: most people cant answer that, because they've never been told what it is and why its important, but its so vital to the reason we need to be saved.
Den: sin are the bad things we do and disobeying Gods commandments
Christian: can you name some of the commandments?
Den: love God above all
Christian: that's true
Den: honor your father and mother
Christian: how about adultery....
Christian: Jesus said if you look with lust, its adultery of the heart
Den: thou shall not kill
Christian: And Jesus said if we hate someone we are guilty of murder in the heart
Den: stealing is another
Christian: You're right! Those are some of the commandments.
Christian: They cut right to our heart, and they even compose of the things we do in our thoughts and the things we think we do in secret.
Christian: Den, who see's these things we think and do when no one is around?
Den: Jesus
Christian: We'll God tells us that we all fall short of the Glory of God, and his Standard. that standard is the Ten Commandments. God shows it to us as a mirror to our heart. So we see ourselves in truth...
Christian: and so if we break one Commandment in thought word or deed.. we have broken the Law...
Christian: and God demands the death penalty for our crimes.
Christian: Our crimes are not against other people, because they did not create the Law. No, our crimes are against our Holy God.
Christian: And he seeks the death penalty.
Christian: so there's nothing we can do to not want to sin by hating someone. we're all ready in trouble and we cant do anything to get out of it
Christian: This is why Jesus is so important.
Christian: We don't get saved to go to heaven or get eternal life. “We get saved”, or “come to Jesus” so that we will desire righteous, and with our repentance and faith, we are also saved from God's wrath and Hell.
Christian: And we come to Jesus out of gratitude and love for what he did on the cross for us.
Christian: We broke the Law, Jesus paid our fine. Does that make sense?
Den: yes,but what if i committed a mortal sin? what should i do not to hate someone?
Christian: all sins are sins. There is no difference
Christian: If we do something against the Law of God (whether towards God or man) its only a crime against God.
Den: then what should i do?
Christian: well, that is why we come to Jesus for salvation.
Christian: We come because we know we are sinners, that we do not do good (God's word says no one is good and no one does good). His word says “all the things we do are as filthy dirty rags that are only fit to burn.”
Christian: And “we can not earn salvation”, we can not bribe God (the Judge of our soul) with any deeds (because they are worthless).
Christian: All we can do is fall at the feet of Jesus Christ and obey the Gospel...
Christian: This is why I asked you earlier because not everyone who thinks they are saved... is. They hear a gospel message that sounds good but its not the real one. In the end it leads to destruction and hell, that is why I like to make sure anyone I talk to “is” saved by asking these kinds of questions, so that they can hear the biblical message of what we need to do to be saved, and the reason why we need to be saved.
Christian: Has anyone ever told you what you must do to be saved? What God's terms are...?
Den: all i understand is that to accept God as my personal saviour
Christian: But the question is… what does that mean. The gospel tells us that we do not accept God, God accepts us. And we have to know why we need God and what Jesus has to do with it all.
Christian: What we give God is not a flippant acceptance. its based on obedience to the gospel.
Den: after I’m saved i should do good things
Christian: Well, after we are saved we will do things that please God because we are saved, and because GOD does those things through us. We desire to live righteously.
Christian: So this is what the gospel message of God declares and commands:
Christian: “God calls all men everywhere to repent, because he has appointed a day (judgment day) where in he will judge the world in righteousness (according to the Law) through the One he appointed (Jesus Christ)...”
Christian: He calls us to Repent and Trust in Jesus....
Christian: Repentance isnt saying a prayer or saying your sorry and continuing to live as you did before...
Christian: Repentance is a ONE TIME situation where you Talk to God (yourself personally in private - no one else around)....
Christian: Repentance is admitting to God that you are a sinner, that you have violated the Law of God... you name as many sins as you can think of.... and you ask Jesus to forgive you of those sins. Your sins (past, present and future) will be forgiven (once and for all).
Den: is that what should i do 2 be 4given by God?
Christian: I'm still explaining...hold on….
Den: what if im already saved and i committed a sin? can God still forgive me?
Christian: Well, lets first confirm that you are saved first. Because it doesn’t sound like you really are. (ie. since you couldn’t tell me how to be saved, why to be saved, and you gave me a different answer that a Christian should give to those questions…let's confirm you're saved, and then I'll answer that question ok?)
Christian: So, Repentance is admitting to God that you are a sinner, that you have violated the Law of God... (name as many sins as you can think of when you talk to God).... and ask Jesus to forgive you of those sins. Your sins past present and future will be forgiven (once and for all).
Den: ok
Christian: The other part of "repentance" is the turning from those sins. It’s a forsaking of sin. You no longer desire to do what is against God (rebellion, sin, etc)... and you abhor sin (means to hate it, hate it, hate it and want nothing to do with it anymore)...
Christian: So first is Repentance... and the second part is... Trusting Jesus.
Christian: (This is not a fluffy kind of trust.)
Christian: it means that you “believe” Jesus is who the Bible says He is, and who Jesus says He is in the Bible. It also means that you believe that Jesus died on the cross for you’re your sins… that only Jesus can save you from God's coming punishment that will fall upon all who die in their sins (unforgiven sinners).
Christian: If your sins are forgiven ... you are a “forgiven sinner” and not an unforgiven sinner.
Christian: The TRUST you have is that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your crimes against God. And if you receive it, it’s PAID IN FULL. And your case is closed before God.
Christian: You broke the Law and Jesus paid the fine. If you RECEIVE Jesus payment on your behalf, by Telling God you want that FREE gift God offers in Jesus (Forgiveness and eternal life)...
Christian: Then its as if Jesus comes into God's court room... and you are about to be sentenced for serious crimes. You dont have the money or the ability to get out of the situation, are about to be sentenced... and Jesus bursts into the court room... runs up to the Judge and says "I love this man, I sold all I have to pay for His fine." and the Judge looks at you and says you are free to go. This person paid your fine for you. Jesus paid the fine with his life’s blood on the cross. The Justice of God is served, because the fine is paid for IN FULL.... and you are now a free man…with an new friend in whom you are grateful to, and live out that gratitude from this day forward. Praising and Thanking God for saving you.
Christian: Does that make sense?
Den: yah
Christian: Repentance and Trusting in Jesus. That’s it. That’s all you need to do to be saved.
Christian: Once you do that, as you talk to God in prayer, GOD will ACCEPT Jesus work on your behalf, and you will instantly become a forgiven sinner, and an adopted child of God.
Christian: Does that make sense?
Den: yah
Christian: great.
Den: ill do it
Den: thanks
Christian: So when your relatives tried to tell you about the gospel and how to be saved, it doesnt sound like they gave the biblical gospel message. However, I am glad you are going to "Get right with God" and become saved today. You’ll be a Born Again believer!
Christian: You know Jesus not only said to “Repent”, but also that one “Must be born again to enter heaven”.
Den: i think they did tell me, i just didn’t understand so clear.
Christian: If you repent and trust in Christ then you will be born again, and God's spirit will make you into an new person. That transformation is amazing.
Christian: We no longer desire to sin, (but that doesn’t mean we don’t mess up and sin).
Den: im a born again
Christian: Being born again is what happens after you obey the Gospel. You're going to do that tonight, right now, right?
Den: yeah
Den: thanks
Christian: awsome! Praise God. I am so happy. You know... the Bible says that
when you get saved.. .”the Angels in heaven rejoice!”
Den: ive heard that verse
Christian: Here is a website to help you as you begin to grow in the faith, study the Bible (your own personal time in the Bible between you and God).... *****************
Christian: There are important articles in there for new believers to know. But don't go there until after you pray/talk to God.
Den: thanks. i’ll visit it
Christian: Thank you for talking with me tonight!
Christian: BTW, I lead a Bible study class online for new believers. feel free to swing over and join us! **********
Den: okey,by the way its morning here today
Christian: have a great day then and God bless!
Christian: PS.. your question will be answered at that website!
Den: okey thanks
Den: thanks God for using you as a channel
Christian: Have a great day Den! I am blessed to have been here to help you come to know God! Den: thanks to you
Christian: thanks to God using me!
Den: yes
Christian: ok (Go pray to God now)!
Den: are you signing off?
Christian: yep, unless you have another question.
Christian: (I am usually here one hour earlier than we chatted tonight.)
Den: can you help me to share this gospel with my friend?
Christian: Yes. Send them to www.NeedGod.com and then just tell your friend about our conversation.
Den: he's a catholic
Christian: Great. Everyone needs to be saved. Even if they don’t want to hear the gospel of the Bible... YOU know it and YOU will obey it. Don’t let anyone discourage you from the faith! This faith is the only one that saves!
Den: its hard for me to share this with him because dont know if hes interested about listening to God
Christian: its ok. You can just tell him/her about your conversation, and that you became born again today by obeying the gospel of the Bible.
Christian: show him the website and let GOD do the work in him/her towards the truth.
Note…. It could be years and years before they come to Jesus, but God can save them right now if they are open to wanting to be saved!
Christian: Ok, have a great day....and Go pray to God right now before you do anything else!
den: okey, I will
den: thanks
den: good evening
**Chat ended**
